It looks like the Worm has six effective drones which may look weak at first but will bite you were you sit on.

I don't fly any minmatar ships but the Blood Raider lineup with long range webs and the old NOS kinda 'feels' right with the Blood Raider lore.

btw: any chance we can get 10 run BPCs from the LP stores for these ships ? :D

the worm in it's proposed state has 6 effective drones.

Gurista
- 300% seems a little high perhaps some comparison too 5 50% bonused drones would help here to clarify its usefulness
-i like the missile damage bonus .. my concern is how much dps comes from both sources maybe some stats here please?
- also still has 10 slots ? drone boats -1 slot should apply here

Why are you focusing on lower SP ships when you have players who have committed years and years to you, yet all they get are capital nerf after capital nerf...part of the attraction of Eve Online is the ability to fly big and sexy ships. But when you don't give any love to capital ships in YEARS with nothing more than nerfs you will start to lose your senior players. I understand that this is geared towards newer players and thats great...but when you give way to a player base who wants nothing more than a big blue doughnut and you bend to their whim when they don't like the way the game is going *read not in their direction* they cry for a nerf and you oblige. This is sad...albeit I will continue to play because never the less...I am addicted.

It's 6 effective drones. You're not adding 300%, you're multiplying by 300%

300% = 3.00

2*3.00 = 6

learn2maths

About the Worm, i think some of you are missing the point, overpowered is not a synonym of fun.

The Worm should remain a shield tanked frigate(Caldari) with 5/10 drones(Gallente), balance the ship bonus around this.

People need to stop with all the incorrect mathematics before interjecting into balance discussions.

A 200% bonus on 2 turrets would be the equivalent of 8 turrets.

A 150% bonus is the equivalent of the current unchanged cruor's two damage bonuses put together.

Well that gets into a whole discussion around the advantages/disadvantages and differences between weapon systems. They're pretty balanced:

- Gun tracking speed against explosion velocity/radius bonuses
- Gun Optimal/Falloff against Missile flight time
- Gun ROF vs Missile ROF
- Gun instant damage application with limited damage types, against missile delayed damage with more damage versatility
- Gun potential for misses and critical hits vs missile damage consistency
- Different susceptibility to EWAR and countermeasures (Tracking Distruption vs Firewalling) but that's again a whole other discussion.

My problem is if we can assert that the weapon systems are fairly balanced and different in their application, and they all have their strengths and weaknesses. You want the different ships to play to the strengths of those weapon systems, and that's why I don't like seeing the missile damage versatility gimped - whether by limiting the damage types by hull, or extremely long reload times.

You realize your nonsense? What would help to have a web range larger than your lock range? This is not the ashimmu, its a FRIGATE! witht he proposed bonus it can already web over 30 km with links or faction web. 50% per level would mean like 50 km!!!! Cruor cannot even lock a target that far!

Peopel need to stop ananlysign the ships on a spreadsheet!!!

Think in combat how the bonuses would affect the combat!!!

I think its a bit over-simplistic to say that a 90% web is twice as strong as an 80% web. Just as an illustrative example, when doing incursions in my vindi, I learned that a 80% web and a 90% web are pretty much exactly the same while the target is slowing down. Its many many seconds before the 90% web starts actually showing its strength, and the target was often long dead before that.

It should be obvious to anyone that a long range web and a strong web are different and one is not superior to the other in all situations.

Post change, two drones will put out a base dps of 40. Multiplied by 300%, this translates to 120, a net loss.

I will explain you in other way, so you will understand maybe like for 6 years old kid.

If I brake your leg, you will need to find job for itself not too far away from your home (in close range).
After you found job (I think it will be some job near computer where you can use own 2 hands) so after I will brake your one arm, because I think, you type on computer too fast and even 1 arm will be enough for you.
After when you will be absolutely useless, I will tell you - I will repair your broken leg a bit, so you will be rebalanced and find a job far away from own home, with one arm...
And after maybe I will brake your second arm, but you can be far away from your home and need to be happy.

So, you want to say, you will be more happy with broken legs and arms, even if I have promised you, I can turn back time and aim fully your leg and we can count it never happened?

Maybe would be better even not to brake your legs and arms and after 7 years understand it?

I tell you who cares - me and many old players. I don't want to play in "first brake something good, and after when we brake it - play in back in time game before we brake it"
If you will try to buy new car in 2014 and when you paid for it, you will get 7 years old car and you will ask - why you get 7 years old car if you paid for new? ANd auto seller will answer you - it's absolutely new, new everything, just 7 years old technology inside it, but it's looks like new car of 2014. I think you will care.